Please allow me to offer some other thoughts to think about as well in regard to this subject Chris.....



"any reconciliation between faith and democratic pluralism requires some sense of proportion.

This goes for both sides.

Even those who claim the Bible's inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages - the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ's divinity - are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.

The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.

But a sense of proportion should also guide those who police the boundaries between church and state. Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation - context matters. It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase "under God." I didn't. Having voluntary student prayer groups use school property to meet should not be a threat, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats. And one can envision certain faith-based programs - targeting ex-offenders or substance abusers - that offer a uniquely powerful way of solving problems.

So we all have some work to do here. But I am hopeful that we can bridge the gaps that exist and overcome the prejudices each of us bring to this debate. And I have faith that millions of believing Americans want that to happen. No matter how religious they may or may not be, people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don't want faith used to belittle or to divide. They're tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon. Because in the end, that's not how they think about faith in their own lives." -- Senator Barack Obama 2006

Below I would like to offer some different views for folks to consider on this subject Chris...thanks....Dawn G.


"Can you be pro-life and support Senator Obama? The answer - upon even a moment's reflection - is unequivocally yes.
Welcome to Pro-Life, Pro-Obama, an online resource, created by Pro-life supporters of Senator Barack Obama.

Barack Obama's life has been one dedicated in service to the needs of others.

We are all called to build a culture of life - but there's more to it than just hoping that the next Supreme Court justice somehow deals with Roe v. Wade. A bad economy is threatening to human life. Women facing the moral tragedy of abortion - are facing it, now, today - and they need a supportive community and tangible help, not condemnation.

As Ronald Reagan's legal counsel and as a dean and professor at Catholic University and Notre Dame, I have worked to put the law on the side of life where it belongs.

But after 35 years, a new approach is needed. Too many unborn lives are being lost as we wait for judges to get it right. Barack Obama's strengthening of support for prenatal care, health care, maternity leave, and adoption will make the difference. Studies confirm it.

We are but a few weeks away from a new beginning in America.

I am inspired by what Senator Obama calls "the promise of America -- the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation in the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper; I am my sister's keeper. That's the promise we need to keep."

It is because of the hope of this promise, that I have written Can a Catholic Support Him? Asking the Big Question About Barack Obama. While especially aimed at Catholic citizens, the book and the material here are devoted to opening every heart and mind to the prospect of transcending the partisanship on these difficult issues.

That is the change we need right now. And it is within our grasp.

Thank you for visiting this site and we look forward to being in touch,"

Douglas W. Kmiec



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Douglas W. Kmiec holds the endowed chair in Constitutional Law at Pepperdine University. Prior to that, he was dean and St. Thomas More Professor of Law at Catholic University of America in Washington, DC. He also served as Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. He is author of the new book, Can A Catholic Support Him? Asking the Big Question About Barack Obama.

Chris.....I am feeling quite annoyed with Christians who claim that followers of the democratic party and the candidates they support are not Christian or are un- Godly men and women. This is a pet peeve of mine. Frankly, I think it's done to scare people away from voting for anyone who is not a devout conservative. It's the highest form of division among believers I can think of. This is not what Jesus wants!! It is possible to be a Democrat and a believer sir!! I think the core values of what Jesus came here to teach and show people are demonstrated by the Democratic party. I want people to know there are organizations and churches and Catholics and other Christians out there that haven't bought into this garbage. People who have been intelligent enough to see through the facade that is perpertrated against fellow Democratic brothers and sisters of faith. Also, if one is interested in uplifting a nation, we better be interested in bettering it's people first..for without it's people...what is a nation? I believe this was a primary value and goal Jesus wished to teach. Below is some things I have found in reference to Senator Barack Obama and faith. The entire website is devoted to democratic political policies and faith. I just wanted to share this with others whom may have been misguided and duped into thinking that they cannot vote for a Democrat and also uphold their Christianity and faith. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest...as I said...it is really a pet peeve of mine that makes me very upset and sad.....


"There is always Hope. We can come together, as one people, and transform this nation. Our God is big enough for miracles."– Senator Barack Obama


Senator Barack Obama on:
Personal Faith
Putting Faith into Action
Life with Dignity
Poverty and Economic Justice
Valuing Families
Creation Care
Service and Sacrifice
Moral Leadership in the World


On Personal FAITH

"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful."


- Christianity Today interview, January 2008
"Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals."

- Christianity Today interview, January 2008
"Kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth…I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world. As a source of hope."

- Call to Renewal, Washington, DC, June 2006
"I think we make a mistake when we fail to acknowledge the power of faith in people's lives - in the lives of the American people."

- Call to Renewal, Washington, DC, June 2006
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On Putting Faith into ACTION

"When I'm President, I'll establish a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. The new name will reflect a new commitment. This Council will not just be another name on the White House organization chart - it will be a critical part of my administration.

We know that faith and values can be a source of strength in our own lives. That's what it's been to me. And that's what it is to so many Americans. But it can also be something more. It can be the foundation of a new project of American renewal. And that's the kind of effort I intend to lead as President of the United States."

- Zanesville, Ohio, July 2008
"My Bible tells me that when God sent his only Son to Earth, it was to heal the sick and comfort the weary; to feed the hungry and clothe the naked; to befriend the outcast and redeem those who strayed from righteousness.

Living His example is the hardest kind of faith - but it is surely the most rewarding. It is a way of life that can not only light our way as people of faith, but guide us to a new and better politics as Americans."

- Saddleback Church, Lake Forest, CA, December 2006
"In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand – that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well."

-A More Perfect Union, Philadelphia, PA, March 2008
"Pastors, friends of mine like Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes, are wielding their enormous influences to confront AIDS, Third World debt relief, and the genocide in Darfur. Religious thinkers and activists like our good friend Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo are lifting up the Biblical injunction to help the poor as a means of mobilizing Christians against budget cuts to social programs and growing inequality...Across the country, individual churches are sponsoring day care programs, building senior centers, helping ex-offenders reclaim their lives, and rebuilding our gulf coast in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina."

- Call to Renewal, Washington, DC, June 2006

"Secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering into the public square. Frederick Douglas, Abraham Lincoln, Williams Jennings Bryant, Dorothy Day, Martin Luther King - indeed, the majority of great reformers in American history - were not only motivated by faith, but repeatedly used religious language to argue for their cause. So to say that men and women should not inject their "personal morality" into public policy debates is a practical absurdity. Our law is by definition a codification of morality, much of it grounded in the Judeo-Christian tradition."

- Call to Renewal, Washington, DC, June 2006
"There is always Hope. There is always light in the midst of desperate days…we can come together, as one people, and transform this nation. Our God is big enough for miracles."

- Hampton University, June 2007
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On Life with DIGNITY

"As children of God, we believe in the worth and dignity of every human being; it doesn't matter where that person came from or what documents they have. We believe that everyone, everywhere should be loved, and given the chance to work, and raise a family."

- A Politics of Conscience, Hartford, CT, June 2007
"Our conscience cannot rest so long as nearly 45 million Americans don't have health insurance and the millions more who do are going bankrupt trying to pay for it. I have made a solemn pledge that I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premiums by up to $2500 a year. That's not simply a matter of policy or ideology - it's a moral commitment."

- A Politics of Conscience, Hartford, CT, June 2007
"I don't know anybody who is pro-abortion. I think people recognize what a wrenching, difficult issue it is… Our goal should be to make abortion less common, that we should be discouraging unwanted pregnancies, that we should encourage adoption wherever possible."

- Christianity Today interview, January 2008
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On POVERTY and ECONOMIC JUSTICE

"It’s been four decades since Bobby Kennedy crouched in a shack along the Mississippi Delta and looked into the wide, listless eyes of a hungry child. Again and again, he tried to talk to this child, but each time his efforts met only a blank stare of desperation. When Kennedy turned to the reporters traveling with him, he asked with tears in his eyes a single question about poverty in America: “How can a country like this allow it?”

There is an easy answer to the moral question of whether we can continue to tolerate poverty in America: We can’t. The political question of what to do about it has always been more difficult. But now that we know what works, this country has an obligation to act."

- Statement to Stanford Poverty Institute, December 2007
"People are seeing less income, fewer wages, jobs being shipped over seas. And when people lose their jobs, when the plant closes, they don’t just lose their job. They lose their healthcare, and their pension. More than that, you lose your sense of who you are and your place in your community, your sense of dignity, and your ability to support a family…. We cannot afford to wait to fix our economy."

- Ft. Wayne Indiana, May 2008
"Our government cannot guarantee success and happiness in life, but what we can do as a nation is to ensure that every American who wants to work is prepared to work, able to find a job, and able to stay out of poverty. What we can do is make our neighborhoods whole again. What we can do is retire the phrase "working poor" in our time. That's what we can do, because that's who we are."

- Washington, DC, July 2007
"If we continue to let our trade policy be dictated by special interests, then American workers will continue to be undermined, and public support for robust trade will continue to erode…. We cannot let enforcement of existing trade agreements take a backseat to the negotiation of new ones. Put simply, we need tougher negotiators on our side of the table – to strike bargains that are good not just for Wall Street, but also for Main Street. And when I am President, that's what we will do.

- Flint, MI, June 2008
"We can't afford to lose a generation of tomorrow's doctors and scientists and teachers to poverty. We can make excuses for it or we can fight about it or we can ignore poverty altogether, but as long as it's here it will always be a betrayal of the ideals we hold as Americans. It's not who we are."

-Washington, DC, July 2007
We need to heed the biblical call to care for `the least of these' and lift the poor out of despair. That's why it's not just a policy issue when we fight to expand the Earned-Income Tax Credit and the minimum wage. If you're working 40 hours a week, you shouldn't be living in poverty."

- A Politics of Conscience, Hartford, CT, June 2007
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On Valuing FAMILIES

"It’s up to us to instill this ethic of excellence in our children. It’s up to us to say to our daughters, don’t ever let images on TV tell you what you are worth, because I expect you to dream without limit and reach for those goals. It’s up to us to tell our sons, those songs on the radio may glorify violence, but in my house we give glory to achievement, self-respect and hard work. It’s up to us to set these high expectations. And that means meeting those expectations ourselves. That means setting examples of excellence in our own lives."

- Father’s Day Speech, Chicago, IL, June 2008
"We know that the cost of the American dream must never come at the expense of the American family. You're working longer hours. More families have two parents working. Meanwhile, it's hard to get a hand. It's even harder to get a break.

I will be a President who stands up for working parents. We'll require employers to provide seven paid sick days each year. We'll enforce laws that prohibit caregiver discrimination. And we'll encourage flexible work schedules to better balance work and parenting for mothers and fathers. That's the change that working families need."

-Bettendorf, IA, November 2007
"As fathers and as parents, we’ve got to spend more time with [our children], and help them with their homework, and turn off the TV set once in a while, turn off the video game and the remote control and read a book to your child."

- A More Perfect Union, Philadelphia, PA, March 2008


"As a parent, I am concerned about what's coming over the airwaves… It is important for us to make sure we are giving parents the tools they need to monitor what their children are watching. Obviously, the problem we have now is not just what's coming over the airwaves, but what's coming over the Internet. So for us to develop technologies and tools to make sure that we are, in fact, empowering parents… I'm concerned about sex and some of the violent, slasher, horror films that come out in the trailers. It is appropriate, in a cooperative way, to work with the industry to try to deal with that problem."

- Democratic Debate, Los Angeles, CA, January 2008
"We need families to raise our children. We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child – it's the courage to raise one."

- Father’s Day Speech, Chicago, IL, June 2008
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On CREATION CARE

"I don't believe that climate change is just an issue that's convenient to bring up during a campaign. I believe it's one of the greatest moral challenges of our generation. That's why I've fought successfully in the Senate to increase our investment in renewable fuels. That's why I reached across the aisle to come up with a plan to raise our fuel standards."

—Des Moines, IA, October 2007
"One of the things I draw from the Genesis story is the importance of us being good stewards of the land, of this incredible gift. And I think there have been times where we haven't been [good stewards], and this is one of those times where we've got to take the warning seriously [about climate change]. And this is where religious faith and the science of global warming converge. We have to find resources in ourselves to make sacrifices so we don't leave it to the next generation.

We've got to be less wasteful, both as a society and in our own individual lives. I think religion can actually bolster our desire to make those sacrifices now. As president, I hope to rally the entire world around the importance of us being good stewards of the land."

- Compassion Forum at Messiah College, April 2008
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On SERVICE and SACRIFICE

"When I am president of the United States. When I send our troops into battle. I am going to be absolutely sure that is based on sound intelligence. I am going to tell the truth to the American People, and the families who we are asking to sacrifice."

-South Carolina Debate, July 2007
"Keeping faith with those who serve must always be a core American value and a cornerstone of American patriotism. Because America's commitment to its servicemen and women begins at enlistment, and it must never end."

—Kansas City, MO, August 2007
"It is time to recapture that sense of a common purpose: I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper. I'm tired of hearing about how America is on the wrong track - I want us to come together to put it on the right track. I'm tired of hearing about red America and blue America - I want to lead a United States of America. I'm tired of talking about what we can't do, or won't do, or won't even try - I want all of us to stand up and to start reaching for what is possible.

That's what history calls us to do. Because loving your country shouldn't just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July; loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. And if you do stand up, I promise you that your life will be richer, and our country will be stronger.

– A Call to Serve, Cornell College, December 2007
I think it's about time we made college affordable for every young person in America. So we're going to provide a $4,000 tuition credit, every student, every year, but, students, you're going to have to give back something in return. You're going to have to participate in community service. You're going to have to work in a homeless shelter, or a veteran's home, or an underserved school, or join the Peace Corps.

We'll invest in you; you invest in America. Together, we will march this country forward."

– Houston, Texas, February 2008
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On MORAL LEADERSHIP in the World

"America cannot meet the threats of this century alone, but the world cannot meet them without America… We must neither retreat from the world nor try to bully it into submission — we must lead the world, by deed and example."

- Chicago Council on Global Affairs, April 2007
On the war in Iraq:
"Our conscience cannot rest so long as the war goes on in Iraq. It's a war I'm proud I opposed from the start - a war that should never have been authorized and never been waged. The Iraq war is not just a security problem, it's a moral problem."

- A Politics of Conscience, Hartford, CT, June 2007

"When we send our young men and women into harm's way, we have a solemn obligation not to fudge the numbers or shade the truth about why they're going, to care for their families while they're gone, to tend to the soldiers upon their return, and to never ever go to war without enough troops to win the war, secure the peace, and earn the respect of the world.

There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America."

- A More Perfect Union, Philadelphia, PA, March 2008

On TORTURE:

"The secret authorization of brutal interrogations is an outrageous betrayal of our core values, and a grave danger to our security. We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer - it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration's approach. Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence. Torture is how you set back America's standing in the world, not how you strengthen it.

It's time to tell the world that America rejects torture without exception or equivocation. It's time to stop telling the American people one thing in public while doing something else in the shadows. No more secret authorization of methods like simulated drowning. When I am president America will once again be the country that stands up to these deplorable tactics. When I am president we won't work in secret to avoid honoring our laws and Constitution, we will be straight with the American people and true to our values."

- Chicago, IL, October 2007

On GLOBAL HEALTH and POVERTY:

"Eliminating global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges we face, with billions of people around the world forced to live on just dollars a day. We can – and must – make it a priority of our foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water.

As we strive to rebuild America’s standing in the world, this legislation will not only commit to reducing global poverty, but will also demonstrate our promise and support to those in the developing world. Our commitment to the global economy has to extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing corporate profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere."

- Washington, DC, December 2007
"We’ve got billions of people who are making less than two dollars a day. We’ve got millions of people who are suffering from HIV/AIDS. We’ve got millions of people who are struggling to get an education. And so, as President, I want to go before the world community and say, “We want to work with you to deal with HIV/AIDS in Sub-Saharan Africa. We want to work with you to end the genocide in Darfur, because we are not a nation that turns a blind eye to the slaughter of innocents.”

So I want to double our foreign aid… We’ve got to have a seamless belief that all people have equality, and that all people have dignity, and that we are fighting to give everybody opportunity."

- Las Vegas, NV, October 2007

On COMING TOGETHER to SOLVE PROBLEMS:

"The problems we face today, from poverty, to war, from the uninsured to the unemployed, are not simply technical problems in search of the perfect ten point plan. They’re rooted in both societal indifference and individual callousness in the imperfections of man.

And, solving these problems will require not just a change in government policy, but a change of heart, and a change of attitude. It will require reaching across religious divides to bring Americans together around our common challenges."

- Call to Renewal, Washington, DC, June 2006
"I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together - unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction - towards a better future for of children and our grandchildren."

- A More Perfect Union, Philadelphia, PA, March 2008 Quotes from Barack Obama



We've collected statements from Senator Obama on his faith, putting faith into action and on issues of concern to people in the faith community. Read through these quotes and learn more about why we are supporting Senator Obama for President.

To read more about his positions and plans for America, visit the official Obama campaign website at www.barackobama.com.

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Dawn, one word, WOW. I don't know were to start. Well, lets start with your, "The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics."

Sadly, the reality is the Catholics that you use in your example are Catholic in name only. They may as well not be members of the Catholic Church. In fact by their practicing birth control, et all., have removed themselves from union with the Catholic Church. By their participation in Communion without first confession and repentance of these acts commit sacrilege. The positive that can be taken from this is that the Catholic Church is a hospital for sinners, thus one can only pray for their healing.

You cited Messiah Barack Obama 2006 "No matter how religious they may or may not be, people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don't want faith used to belittle or to divide. They're tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon. Because in the end, that's not how they think about faith in their own lives." Yet, he has attended a Church and supported a pastor that was "my friend and mentor for twenty years" that preached hate of the United States and white people from the pulpit. Oh, yea I forgot, Obama said that after twenty years he didn't know what the Rev Wright was preaching. This means that 1. Barrack went to the Church but didn't pay attention, 3. Barrack got caught and in his embarassment has thrown his mentor under the bus or 3.Barrack is a liar.


Lets move onto, "Can you be pro-life and support Senator Obama? The answer - upon even a moment's reflection - is unequivocally yes." citing, "Douglas W. Kmiec holds the endowed chair in Constitutional Law at Pepperdine University. Prior to that, he was dean and St. Thomas More Professor of Law at Catholic University of America in Washington, DC."

Lets start with Kmiec. He has great academic credentials, for an academic. Yet Mr. Kemic is only a professor and as we know some professors are quite misguided and push for ideas that they percieve as progessive. Lets look at what some Catholics say:

Bishop Gracida boldly states:
“This is Bishop Rene H. Gracida, reminding all Catholics that they must vote in this election with an informed conscience. A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate.” Or

WASHINGTON, D.C., OCT. 24, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Both opposing evil and doing good are moral requirements in the abortion issue, and the "Catholic approach" does not allow for choosing just one or the other, clarified two U.S. bishops' officials.Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia and Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre, New York, respectively the chair of the episcopal conference's Committee on Pro-Life Activities and the chair of the Committee on Domestic Justice and Human Development, clarified Church teaching on fighting abortion in a Tuesday statement."Unfortunately, there seem to be efforts and voter education materials designed to persuade Catholics that they need only choose one approach: either opposing evil or doing good. This is not an authentically Catholic approach," the prelates affirmed." Or,

"In its response, Franciscan University stated that it "strongly encourage its ... constituents to view the life issues ... as foundational, and as issues that do not lend themselves to the prudential judgment of the voter." Or,


Gianna Jessen and Jill Stanek of BornAliveTruth.org have released a video that features an appeal by Jessen to Sen. Barack Obama asking him to support health care for infants who have been born alive following a botched abortion. Jessen is a 31 year-old who survived a saline abortion; Stanek is the nurse who blew the whistle on infants being allowed to die in a utility room following induced-labor abortions (she was fired from Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois for doing so).

"When Obama was in the Illinois State Senate, he blocked all legislation designed to provide health care for infants who survived an abortion. The language of the Illinois bill, in its final version, was identical to the language of the federal bill that was passed unanimously and signed into law by President Bush. Though that bill made it clear that nothing in the legislation could be construed to overturn Roe v. Wade, it still wasn’t enough to satisfy Obama." Or, (Stay with me Dawn)

"By deductive reasoning, we can therefore know that those who are intentionally supporting the grave sin of abortion either politically, financially or otherwise in the public sphere, while claiming to be Catholic, can be guilty not only of scandal but also in serious danger of so gravely offending God that, unless they repent, they will be damned. That is not a personal opinion of mine; it happens to be a truth taught by the Catholic Church. Why else would the sacrament of penance exist?"

Lastly, you inpart wrote, "..think the core values of what Jesus came here to teach and show people are demonstrated by the Democratic party." To back up this statement you copy and pasted quite a list of quotes by the Messiah. However we have already determined that he either tells half-truths, un-truths or out right lies. These quotes are from the mans own book:


From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Here is another 50 Bishops that disagree with good progressive (?) professor, Douglas W. Kmiec. I checked out the website that your quotes came from, looking at it, one gets the impression that the Obama campaign itself put that one up. What I also find interesting is that the Messiah refuses to make public his birth certificate going to the extreme to file suit (along with the DNC) to not allow access. I could see some resistance to financial records, but a birth certificate? If there is no problem why fight so hard to supress it?

50 Bishops Say Abortion Most Important Issue in U.S. Election

By Thaddeus M. Baklinski

October 24, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - With only days remaining before the November 4 U.S. election, a tally has shown that over a quarter of America's bishops have published articles, issued statements or given interviews where they have declared that the most important issue for voters in their choice of a new president is the candidate’s stance on abortion.

The tally was put together by well-known Catholic journalist and blogger Rocco Palmo, and published in The Tablet, a Catholic periodical (See Rocco’s article here: http://www.thetablet.co.uk/article/12189).

Catholics across the nation have taken the message pro-life to heart, as their pastors have repeatedly called on them to make the right to life the defining issue and to vote accordingly.

Bishop Robert Hermann of St. Louis wrote in the archdiocesan newspaper last Friday that "the issue of life is the most basic issue and must be given priority over the issue of the economy, the issue of war or any other issue."

"Saving our children or killing our children. This," wrote the Bishop Hermann in the St. Louis Review, "is the overriding issue facing each of us. All other issues ... have to take second place to the issue of life."

Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St Joseph wrote in his diocesan newspaper that "despite hardship, beyond partisanship, for the sake of our eternal salvation," Catholic voters "should never" support a candidate who favours the continued legalisation of abortion.

Bishops Kevin J. Farrell of Dallas and Keven W. Vann of Fort Worth issued a pastoral letter on October 8 which singled out abortion as the "preeminent intrinsic evil of our day," and again stressed that all other rights originate in the right to life.

"It is impossible to further the common good without acknowledging and defending the right to life, upon which all the other inalienable rights of individuals are founded and from which they develop," the bishops wrote.

Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver made national headlines when he described Barack Obama as "the most committed abortion-rights presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision."

Archbishop Chaput later said that those Catholics who promote Obama as "this year's ‘real' pro-life candidate," are under a "peculiar kind of self-hypnosis, or moral confusion, or worse."

The determination of these bishops to reach Catholic voters appears to be paying off.

Investor's Business Daily and the TechnoMetrica Institute of Policy and Politics (IBD/TIPP) has released a tracking poll that shows a dramatic shift in opinion that may be a result of the bishops' guidance to their flocks.

IBD/TIPP reported on Thursday that McCain, who has repeatedly declared his pro-life stance on abortion, has cut into Obama's lead for a second day in a row and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 on Wednesday and 6.0 on Tuesday.

Of particular note, however, the poll also shows that John McCain has gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead over Barack Obama among Catholic voters.

According to the Drudge Report, IBD/TIPP was the most accurate pollster for the 2004 election.

Oh you mean McCain, the candidate that switched his position on abortion, to run for the presidency? We have both provided resources and quotes for people to investigate and read over. It is up to each individual to research for him/herself these things and each candidate and do what they feel is in their best interest. My only wish is that people that don't vote Republican stop being called unGodly and stop being thought of as non-Christians!! That is not true!!! In any case...it has been good having this debate with you and the only thing left to see is how this election will turn out!! Our country is a mess and whoever gets elected is going to need alot of prayer and alot of divine intervention to see us through this!!

Personally, Dawn I don't care for either candidate. But, these two are the best that their parties can offer. That in its self speaks volumes to how are society as developed.

Any Presidential candidate can and will promise the voters anything and everything in hopes to become elected. The fact is that only 10% of those promise can and will be delivered on. There is two other branches of government that needs to also add their stamp of apporval on any one piece of legislation.

When one chooses a Presidential candidate, on is actually voting for the candidates national party platform. In the case of abortion, the Republican platform is pro-life and the Democratic pro-killing the unborn.

I agree that prayer will be needed more than ever before, during and after this election day. Perhaps prayers for the total conversion of the USA back to the God that our founding fathers referred to in our founding documents.

May the prayers of the Theotokos intercede for us! :)

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